19 февраля исполняется три года со дня возникновения общественной организации «Самооборона Одессы». Заместитель сотника Виталий Кожухарь побеседовал с корреспондентом Odessa.Report и рассказал о том, чем сейчас занимается «Самооборона», взаимодействии с другими патриотическими организациями и дальнейших планах.

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О возникновении «Самообороны Одессы»

19 февраля мы, активная часть граждан, пошли под ОГА к Скорику на митинг. В тот день побили и нас, и журналистов. В этот же вечер мы решили, что для защиты митингующих, для защиты тех, кто стоял на Евромайдане у Дюка, надо создавать отряды самообороны.

Постепенно наши задачи увеличились. Сначала это была просто защита Евромайдана, а 3 марта случилось наше боевое крещение, когда вывесили российский флаг над ОГА. Тогда нас уже было много – человек 150. Ну и, разумеется, кульминацией было 2 мая 2014 года. Тогда основная часть патриотов приняла активное участие в защите города. Это помогло сбить первую волну, которая могла закончиться очень печально, куда большей кровью.

Мы создали штаб «Самообороны». Тут был центр, куда приходили волонтеры. Они и сейчас сюда приходят. Ни дня не проходит, чтобы они не плели здесь сетки.

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Чем занимается «Самооборона»

Наша основная цель — защита и развитие государственных интересов во всех сферах жизнедеятельности общества. Мы работаем во многих направлениях. Так, например, мы занимаемся вопросами экономической деоккупациии.

Большая часть нашего рынка принадлежит россиянам. Была такая компания «Мегаполис», где конечным бенефициаром был российский бизнесмен. При Януковиче компания силой забрала под себя почти весь рынок сигаретных изделий. Через антимонопольный комитет мы добились того, что эту компанию разбили на части и вывели из ее состава российских предпринимателей. Есть, конечно, и другие такие компании. Вот сейчас мы работаем по Одесскому водоканалу и Одессоблэнерго. Там конечный бенефициар – российский предприниматель, который выступал за аннексию Крыма. Все это будет делаться тем же путем – через обращение в СБУ и антимонопольный комитет.

А еще мы блокировали три порта – в Измаиле, в Очакове и в Южном. Мы поставили блокпост и отслеживали «левое» топливо. Оно на баржах сюда завозилось, потом перевозилось в порт, грузилось на бензовозы и вывозилось в разные точки. И один раз мы отследили, что оно шло в сторону ДНР. Собранные данные мы сообщили в прокуратуру и налоговую полицию, с которой мы приняли участие в выемке документов и блокировке порта. Изъяли несколько тысяч тонн топлива. И на достаточно долгий период это было остановлено. Правда сейчас мы получаем информацию, что ситуация возобновилась.

Еще мы активно ходим на суды. Мы находимся практически на всех судах, где есть государственные интересы или личные права граждан в наглую нарушаются. Это нельзя назвать давлением на суд, потому что мы не приходим к судье, и не говорим, какое решение нужно принять. У нас есть юристы, которые понимают правоведение и если судьи откровенно занимают чью-то позицию, то мы знаем, как в этом случае действовать. В таких случаях есть дисциплинарная комиссия, и мы в нее обращаемся.

Наша организация активно борется с проявлениями сепаратизма. Мы отслеживали тех, кто собирался на Куликовом поле, выслеживали по соцсетям, боролись с попыткой объявить «Порто-Франко». Нас часто во многом обвиняют. Например в том, что мы получили деньги за то, что выкинули основных хозяев завода Ореон. На самом деле все очень просто. Был директор завода, который был в реестре юридических лиц, но группа других лиц пришла и физически его оттуда выкинула. Мы тогда помогли директору вернуться назад. Помню нам тогда другая сторона предлагала 30 тысяч долларов за то, чтобы мы оттуда ушли. Но как только его законно сняли, и он перестал быть директором, мы туда перестали вмешиваться.

Кстати, взятки регулярно предлагают. Когда в марте 2015 мы убирали забор вокруг незаконной стройке в парке «Юность», нам тоже предлагали деньги, чтобы мы ушли. Не помню сколько. Но такие стройки нормально предлагают, не меньше 10 тысяч долларов.

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О мэре

Мы за ним наблюдаем, смотрим что он делает. Проявлений сепаратизма мы не видим. Мы внимательно изучали этот вопрос – через Киев, через СБУ. Мы прекрасно знаем, откуда он родом – из 90-х. Я знаю его контакты. Тут не скроешь ничего. Его вице-мэром работает наш побратим – Андрей Котляр. Когда у нас есть инициативы, которые мы пытаемся предложить в интересах города – мы действуем через него.

Для меня не важно, какой мэр. Меня интересует город, жители этого города, а также экономическое и политическое состояние, в котором находится город. Сегодня Труханов, вчера – Костусев, позавчера – Гурвиц. Это все одна плеяда из советского времени. Мы их не поменяем. Люди выбрали и законного способа их поменять нет. Это только выборы, это надо понимать.

Антитрухановский майдан

Вообще у нас была одна проблема – они зачем-то начали троллить нас и Котляра. При том, что он не был замечен в том, что где-то подпевает или делает неправильные движения. Он создал муниципальную безопасность, куда входят многих из тех, кто прошел войну. И если бы что-то случилось, то они как раз бы и открыли дорогу в мэрию, и сами бы все вынесли. Зачем, чтобы там были какие-то титушки, если могут быть наши ребята. И это все сделал Котляр. Так вот.

Мы к ним подходили и спрашивали– ребята, ну зачем вы это делаете? Хотите убрать Труханова – мы не против. Но давайте найдем законный способ, но раскачивать город… Они не слышали, им главное обвинять.

Корреспондент: Активисты утверждают, что когда был разгон антитрухановского майдана, что били женщин…

Виталий: Ну, это все вранье. На камеру это все было сделано. На самом деле я вам скажу — мы, в общем-то помогли избежать конфликта, который мог бы быть 2 сентября, в день рождения города потому люди в Одессе до сих пор положительно воспринимают то, что произошло на Майдане. Некоторые люди в Одессе до сих пор не очень положительно относятся к тому, что было на майдане — подвыпившие, приехавшие из южного региона. Могли быть и конфликты. Мы просили, чтобы они снялись, зашли подальше, чтобы не провоцировать людей. Но они не захотели, поэтому муниципальная безопасность начала разбирать эти ограждения. Мы хотели избежать конфликта, но им надо было кричать на камеру, валяться, что, собственно, они и сделали.

(Изначально в тексте была написано следующее: «Разгоном антитрухановского майдана мы помогли избежать конфликта, который мог произойти на день города». Корреспондент, который брал интервью, не верно истолковал слова Виталия Кожухухаря. Редакция приносит свои извинения)

 

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О взаимодействии с другими патриотическими организациями

С теми организациями, которые прошли с нами боевое крещение – Евромайдан, 2 мая и вообще 2014 год – мы взаимодействуем нормально. Мы стараемся не вмешиваться в их деятельность, и чтобы они не вмешивались в нашу. Главное, чтобы их деятельность не шла в разрез государственным интересам.

О планах

Мы будем существовать пока будет война, пока это будет нужно государству и гражданам. Мы будем заниматься тем же, чем и занимались. Думаю, что важным направлением можно выделить работу в сфере борьбы с коррупцией. Также мы будем следить за работой правоохранительных органов.

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